OneWorld Xe Installation

sunnyind

Well Known Member
Hi List,

I am doing a fresh installation for the first time, It would be very kind of you to help me out..
1) accidently I have deleted the DEP7333 path code, how can i get it back
2) when I had Installed PY and PD Business data and central objects did not get installed where as on the other hand DV and JD got installed properly.

I have already installed a client workstation and was able to create project, objects and even run the UBE locally and on Server. So without effecting the whole of the setup how can i configure my PY and PD.Are there any other test I need to do to confim my environments
 
Sunny,

1. There is no DEP7333 pathcode. The DEP7333 Environment uses the Planner Pathcode.

2. I would create a custom plan, but just for PD and PY. Also make sure the loadall scripts are configured properly, make sure nothing is commented out. Also, check the user creation scripts and make sure nothing is commented out in it.

Fun, isn't it?
 
msouterblight1,

when I try to login on my Deployment Server in the DEP7333, it doesn't appear in the available list of environment. After the environment was deleted I went and add DEP7333 in the Environment master. Shouldn't it solve the problem. Do i need to do something more so that DEP7333 appears in the available environment list.

Thanks for the tips..
nice quote...its fun brain teasers..
 
Sunny,
Which environment were you logged into when you added DEP7333 back to OneWorld?


I would suggest logging back into the JDEPLAN environment and add the DEP7333 environment there. Also, don't forget OCMs.. You might be in a little bit of a predicament.

Let me know if this helps.
 
msouterblight1,
I did through the planner environment on deployment server. OCM could be the cause, I did not check them..
If I have to re-create the OCM for DEP7333 how do I go about.
I just wana get the stuff working once again, as it is I am in mess with my new installation.
I am new to JDE world and this is my first installation.all this while i was maintaining a installed system.

Thanks a million times..
 
Oh my gawd

I don't want to be rude or anything, but get a real consultant in there quick. Stop playing around with something you don't know much about yet. Admit you made a mistake trying to "install" this new software out that someone put on your desk, and tell that someone that you don't feel comfortable doing this and that a OneWorld CNC specialist is required - I repeat - REQUIRED - to make your implementation a success.

I have seen so many instances of this recently, it is so sad - it is going to end up one of several BAD ways here:

1. You never get OneWorld running - you have to bring in a consultant

2. You get the install working - but fail to do any further CNC tasks such as Security, Websphere, Citrix implementation, Output management. Costs a lot of money to bring in a consultant on an "emergency"

3. You get the install working, and you do a few CNC tasks without realizing the impact on the business because you didn't follow the methodology. Bad times ahead - get in a consultant.

4. You and your company bumble around - never looking at the technical side of JDE seriously, always trying to patch issues and ESU's until eventually all of the timescales have slipped and you go over budget. After a lot of finger-pointing, eventually, your CIO gets fired, a complete reorganization occurs - the new CIO doesn't want anything to do with the implementation and attempts to bring in a Big-5 to blame it on (which doesn't work since they're untouchable). More money is spent, and the CIO cans the project, eventually ending up in attempted lawsuit against JDE (which also doesn't work)

Hmm - maybe I might have gone a little overboard with scenario number 4 ?

If you want to do this yourself, I recommend training from JDE or a partner, followed by lots of experience as a 2nd in command....we all went down this route once.
 
Jon,

Ha ha ha.. Nice project overview.. I see you've had a couple go really well.. I agree with you, a little money spent on the front end, will save alot on the back end, not to mention time, and most imporatantly people's butts!!!

Sunny,
You definitely need some help. I agree that you should ask that someone be brought in to assist and train you.
 
Actually Mathew - just to underline something, my track record is 100% success rate - I've never worked at a customer site that didn't go live.

But I know many, many, many others that I haven't worked at that bombed and went through the "project plan" as I described - 100% of all those that bombed (ie was canned or ended up in a lawsuit situation with JDE) didn't have experienced consultants on site - some of them DID have Big-5 involved.

It seems to me that someone has tried to save money on a consultant, and hired Sunny from India. I know a major medical company that just signed a 7 year agreement with a major hardware corporation to provide CNC Services, and to save money that company hired from India to fulfill the contract.

I always thought this sort of situation would end up in my pocket after a few months of bumbling - however, what I see happening recently is that many companies are forced to go through a long-term situation based on contractual agreements, and that such a bad experience will end up in a project disaster - ultimately hurting the industry as a whole.

I just hope this hits a chord with some of the companies out there currently - and they remember this email in a few years when they are trying to understand how their IT project went so badly....
 
Jon,

I am sorry if my comments came across wrong. I in no way intended to judge your abilities or the service you provide. From you numerous posts on the message boards, I can say, confidently, that you know what you are talking about.

Again, I am sorry if I offended you in any way.
 
How about a thought from the other side of the fence.

At the beginning of the project we had some good consultants and then some bad consultants. The good ones got us up on Purchasing and Financials with no problem, the bad one put us in the hole real bad on Payroll. Then we had some good consultants working with our people on mfg/dist and order processing.

Due to the economy, we had to let the consultant team go, shortly thereafter our CNC person left. So I was thrown in as a CNC person with no knowledge of what I was doing. Through, trial and error, long nights (midnight 5 nights a week) I came to understand a little about the system. We brought payroll close, brought in another consultant - found some more errors, brought it close again, brought in the top IBM CNC consultant and put on a service pack (20) and an update (6). We then brought in the top IBM Payroll consultant. Finally we were able to bring Payroll live.

What all this rambling means is, you can learn on the job. Just be prepared to make some mistakes, and spend some long hours. BUT BRING IN A CONSULTANT WITH EXPIERENCE BEFORE YOU GO LIVE! That way you have someone to help you out if something goes wrong!

Just the two cents from a guy who learned from the school of hard knocks.
 
I have rerun my custom installtion plan and i got back my DEP7333 as well as Py and PD Business and central objects. And I am able to do all the jobs mentioned earlier except for one "Submitting JOBs on Server" it gets stuck at Processing. In the client jde.log I get KTN0000119 ( problem with the printer. But then againg its configured. I have now realized that I OCM is messed up can somebody help me on that.

Thanks for your tips.
At the end I am concerned I taken my existing out of trouble a number of times inspite of my in-experience single handedly.
 
No - you were ok - I wasn't offended, but I just wanted to ensure that readers understood it wasn't projects that I worked on that ended up like that !

Thankyou for the compliments !

To comment back to Jeremy - I noted that you eventually brought in a "top IBM consultant" just prior to go live, even though much of the work was done yourself. I think that is what I was alluding to - the fact that you had a CNC specialist start you on the right track, then during CRP you "took over" some of the CNC responsibilities, and then just prior to go-live you brought in a CNC consultant.

I agree that this type of project management could work. My issue is that SunnyInd - and so many others - start off trying to perform the install and configuration without any knowledge up front.

Would you have a CNC guy like me come in and set up your Payroll system ? I could certainly help run the payroll system once its all configured - and probably would learn a lot on the job, but to set up all of the tax codes and payroll settings so its right the first time ? I don't think so !

All implementations need to bring in a consultant at the beginning of the project to help them through to their CRP - during the CRP, its perfectly normal to not use that CNC consultant, or perhaps to use them on a remote basis - but prior to go live, ensure you can get them back to perform the stress-test and technical audit as well as all the support for data conversion/user administration and security configuration.

Just my two cents...we have a hard enough time as it is...!
 
This might be a JDEList record - Necro'ing a 15 year old thread.
 
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