ok finally have the dev and web client working on my laptop - last issue was to do with permissions to certain data and spec files ; stopped all E1local services ; granted permission to all files in E1 data and spec folders ; and restarted the services. and Voila! finally it works just as I want - thnx to folks in here, oracle community and oracle support --- phew! that was one bit of work the last 2 weeks plus. thanks all.