Websphere vs. Citrix

Hello,

I am currently live on Citrix but will be installing Websphere to run some tests and try to get some selling points on why we should switch to Websphere. I will be testing stability, latency, general speed of applications and UBE runtimes. Can anyone add anything to this list?

Thank you,
Colin

XE SP22_Q1
NT/AS400/Citrix 1.8/ Citrix XP

The first thing is that the cost to work with a
websphere server and multiple citrix server.
You can test the presentation of oneworld who is more
attractive for users in the html version.



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The first thing is that the cost to work with a
websphere server and multiple citrix server.
You can test the presentation of oneworld who is more
attractive for users in the html version.



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UBE runtimes won't be any different - since you cannot run UBE's on a Webserver - you run them on the Enterprise Server and that should be the same.

I would check "usability of the interface". You might find that Websphere is stable, and is generally "fast" - but the users hate the different interface. If they plain don't like it, don't force them onto it !!!!

I have an interesting presentation here. I can share it provided your company is a JDE/PeopleSoft client.

Alex-admin
XE production, ERP8.9 test

It has been my experience that heavy users (users who spend most of their time logged into JDE) generally prefer the citrix interface over the web client. If you want to add web for your light users who are doing data inquiry or running reports, I'd say go ahead, but I would not expect it to completely replace the need for a citrix server. I don't think the web has developed to a point where it is a viable replacement for terminal server remote access.

We are just starting our implementation. It was the decision of our I.S.
Management that our users would only be using the Web client. With no
exposure to the Citrix client or fat client, they won't know what they are
missing and won't complain.

Scott W. Allen
LAN/CNC Technician
Brass Craft Mfg.
A Subsidiary of Masco Corporation
39600 Orchard Hill Pl.
Novi, MI 48375 USA
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It has been my experience that heavy users (users who spend most of their
time logged into JDE) generally prefer the citrix interface over the web
client. If you want to add web for your light users who are doing data
inquiry or running reports, I'd say go ahead, but I would not expect it to
completely replace the need for a citrix server. I don't think the web has
developed to a point where it is a viable replacement for terminal server
remote access.
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Our organisation uses Citrix for all our applications, using Winterms as the means of accessing the system.

We use both the JDE Portal, which is used by most our users and Solution Explorer via Citrix is used by a small team of high usage users, such as data entry / Finance team.

We are an organisation where most of the users access the system periodically. The ability to add pictures, banners, hyperlinks etc gives us the flexibility to make the Main screen more user friendly. We found this was preferred over the solution explorer menu set-up

Although SP22 has greatly enhanced the way Portal works, it is still not an option for high volume data entry staff that use the system regularly.

Our Portal users access the system using Internet Explorer via Citrix

Scott,

I was at a client last year who thought the same thing. The CIO decided that all users would only use the web to access JDE. They also felt that if the end users did not know any different they would not complain. The CIO could not have been more wrong...

Users, who have just switched to a new ERP system will complain, there is no stopping this. What we experienced was that the light user tended to like the web, but heavy users who were dealing with large volumes of data found the web inefficient and that their productivity was significantly less than on the old system. A year later the decision was made to add a citrix farm for power users.

Also, because our implementation team had access to fat clients during the project, they knew there was a better way. Word gets around faster than you can believe.

Your I.S. management should try correcting an invalid account number of row 2500 of a JE on the web. After hitting the next 10 button 250 times just to see the red error, they may reconsider their decision to be 100% web. Oh, and I've seen payroll JE's that include over 80,000 rows!!!

Good luck with your project and let us know what happens.

As the CNC resource for the client Ken was at, I can assure you I have the scares to backup his observations. Web clients do not perform well for all users. Power users must have access to a citrix farm to be able to use OW effeciently.

Let's remember that OW is a tool to help a company run their business. Everyone would reject an edict that all construction workers only use hammers when building a house. It is our job to help the executives to chose the correct tools for the job.

This doesn't always mean we need to change company policy just redirect it. The same CIO that said everyone had to use the web client wanted a policy to simplify the client desktops to only include a base system and web browser. By using Citrix NFuse to frontend the Citrix farm, they were able to accomplish the same policy and give power users the tools they needed.

This company was not against finding the right solution. In fact they spent a lot of money bring in the "experts" from GATS to try and make the web solution work but it was the wrong tool at this point in time.

Daniel Hoskins
Senior CNC Consultant

We've gone with both since there are PROS and CONS to both. We have a small CITRIX farm for the power users and managers and Web Client for all the data entry and inquiry only users. It works nicely and the support on both platforms isn't that difficult.

Does anyone have any experience in comparing performance for OneWorld with
Websphere on the AS400 vs. Wepshere on an Intel box?
Thanx.

Keith Figgins
M&D Information Systems
XE Coexistence AS400 SP22