What does OneWorld Do? (or What's an ERP?)

What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Okay, this is embarrassing. I've been a CNC for almost two years now. I can do a lot of technical stuff with OneWorld. But I don't know what the system *does*.

The client started talking to me about GL Posting the other day. I thought what I always think:

"Ugh. GL Posting. Big program. Ugh. Breaks a lot. Many ESUs. Ugh."

But I haven't a clue what an actual GL Posting is for.

I imagine that "what does OneWorld Do?" is a very complex question (it has to be-- our business analysts are paid *way* better than I am), but can anybody give it to me in a nutshell?

If it makes things easier, we mainly end up installing the "Financials" module (I suppose that has to do with money) and sometimes "Distribution" (I imagine that has to do with sending things from one place to another, or FexEx, or something.)

Please help! I hate feeling like an ignoramus.

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Tim,
the apps side isnt a big deal for an overview - the devil is in the detail!

General Ledger - Where a companies legal books can be found - broken down type of asset/liability or income/expense (balance sheet v's profit and loss)
Accounts receivable - Where you chase money owed to you
Accounts payable - Where you pay your suppliers from
Fixed assets - Where "assets" of the company are manages e.g. cars and how much they are worth now

Inventory - "product" definition, where it is and how much of it you have
Sales orders - Manages the sales cycle and its varients
Purchase orders - Manages the purchase cycle and its varients
Warehouse - A grown up version of inventory which allows a logic to be applied to pick, put and replenish
Transportation - How to get it to you (inbound - purchasing) or your clients (outbound - sales). It allows routes, rates and agents to be "flexed" according to
certain rules

Configuratior - Rules based engine for selling product. Can be used whereever the attributes of the sale effect how the mfg is done

Product Data Man. - Base mfg definitions
Shop floor - Manage the works orders
MRP - Plan material use and purchases
MPS - Plan how many WO you need to meet SO demand
CRP - Plan capacity - can you make all your WO's !!

Thats a starter for 10 - let me know if you need any more detail and I'd be happy to oblige.

Regards

Peter

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Thanks for the great overview, Peter. That was just what I was looking for- the way one tech would tell another tech about the business side of OneWorld.

Are there any websites or books that explain more detail at this level? I remember seeing a doc called "CNC for Business Consultants" or something like that; is there a similar document somehwere that goes in the other direction (e.g. "The business of ERP for ERP technicians")?

Thanks a lot.

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Tim,
I know where you are. It's sometimes difficult for us technology folks,
because when the system "doesn't work" often the first and most critical
step is to determine is it a technology/CNC issue or an application or
user issue (I remember at one client we held up the project for 2 weeks
with the users and application people telling us we had a CNC issue and
turns out the user didn't know that you couldn't use the ENTER KEY during
the process because it didn't correlate to clicking on the OK button).
How can you do that if you can't understand the application side of
things. A couple of suggestions that have helped me. First and
foremost, if you have the capability of taking the actual application
usage classes, do so. No, you'll not know many of the reasons for doing
things, and you'll probably get lost when the class starts talking about
specific business processes that they employ at their companies (Help, my
SKU has fallen and my KIT can't POST to the LEDGER until it KICKS OUT an
EXCEPTION REPORT because of MULTI COMPANY ROLLUP utilizing MULTI CURRENCY
and SUB ACCOUNTS ). Of course, think about how the app people feel
when we talk about our side of things, yet I digress. Asisde from taking
classes, where I've picked up things is when issues occur, I have a user
actually walk through it with me, and explain what they're doing, why
they're doing it, and the business process behind it. This does two
things...it allows me to do it myself for troubleshooting purposes (don't
you hate thinking you've fixed something only to go back to the user all
happy and they try it and it doesn't work??), and it allows me to learn
the system a bit at a time. Another think I've done is actually get a
general textbook from the library or bookstore about the basics in
Accounting, Inventory, CRM, etc.. Just like in our side of the world
(technology, I'm speaking, not of the literal world), often just knowing
the terms and acronyms can go a long way to feeling more comfortable and
understanding what is being discussed or happening within a system.
Lastly, if the client you are at has business process diagrams (such as
solution modeler) that define the business processes, you can often get a
good idea of "what the system is doing" essentially, and then apply it to
specific applications, UBE's, and tables within the system. I believe
the best support always comes from someone who has a good balance of both
sides. Unfortunately for us technology folks...our side changes so much,
there often isn't time to learn the other. After all, accounting
principles don't often change...assets + owners equity = liabilities.

Regards,

Jim (a non-Jedi CNC semi-application non-guru)

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Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Hi Tim

You might try to get hold of a copy of:

Implementing JDE OneWorld by Robert Starinsky price US$59.99. Quite a good
book all round for techies and apps peeps. www.prima.tech.com

Otherwise I can strongly recommend the JDE Documentation CD's. They contain
a fabulous wealth of detail too, but aren't such good company for a San
Miguel or sangria.

Happy shopping.

regards
Sid Perkins
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Mobile: 07713158807
[email protected]

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for- the way one tech would tell another tech about the business side of
OneWorld.Are there any websites or books that explain more detail at this
level? I remember seeing a doc called "CNC for Business Consultants" or
something like that; is there a similar document somehwere that goes in the
other direction (e.g. "The business of ERP for ERP technicians")?Thanks a
lot.
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Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

> Otherwise I can strongly recommend the JDE Documentation CD's. They contain
> a fabulous wealth of detail too, but aren't such good company for a San
> Miguel or sangria.

Ja ja ja! But Spain isn't all just Sangria and Bull Fighting-- if you're an extranjero (read: one a dem fer'ners) you get to do OneWorld conversions on weekends. Ole! Hala!

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

When your company went live with OW, perhaps they created "scripts" for each function and of JDE. If so, perhaps these scripts are still available.

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Tim......thankssssssssssssss
You made me feel that i am not alone...so it's not ONLY me!!
For my self I started to read some books, and JDE guides that i afraid that you have to read it if you want to stop being embarrassed.
Also try to get involved in any business issue or decisions, for example when ever my client has an issue, I will start by forcing him or our business consultant to explain to me the related business process to better understand it, then I will start to do my job.
Now I start to feel that I can be also financial and/or inventory consultant… isn’t great to be CNC/DEV/FIN/INV consultant???? What u think??? and heyyy thanks again.

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Guys,
you know when you CNC guys start talking techy and people glaze over....well the shoe's on th other foot now !

[Big smile]

Seriously now,App's is the same sort of learning curve as the techy side - if you want to be a consultant e.g. 2-3 years to be OK, 4-5 years to be good 6+ to be concidered an expert in any area (but whats an expert with the software changing so much ?!?)

Mind you recently I have seen hybrid dev+apps requirments so why not cnc+apps - go for it !

Regards

Peter

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

I would recommend taking couple courses in a college. It's not expensive at all.
Jim,
The right equation is:
Assets=Liabilities + Owner’s equity

Regards, Alex

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Tim (and all other 'techies' who want to know),
I've seen the responses so far and agree; the best way to understand the system is application by application. But there is some foundation information that you may find helpful. 90% of all financial reporting occurs against F0902. This table stores summarized accounting data in monthly buckets based on the AID number. (The AID is derived from F0901 (the chart of accounts) and is the primary key.) All other tables and information support the values in this table. The post programs take information from all the detail tables and summarize information for financial reports.

timallen <[email protected]> wrote:
Okay, this is embarrassing. I've been a CNC for almost two years now. I can do a lot of technical stuff with OneWorld. But I don't know what the system *does*.The client started talking to me about GL Posting the other day. I thought what I always think:"Ugh. GL Posting. Big program. Ugh. Breaks a lot. Many ESUs. Ugh."But I haven't a clue what an actual GL Posting is for.I imagine that "what does OneWorld Do?" is a very complex question (it has to be-- our business analysts are paid *way* better than I am), but can anybody give it to me in a nutshell?If it makes things easier, we mainly end up installing the "Financials" module (I suppose that has to do with money) and sometimes "Distribution" (I imagine that has to do with sending things from one place to another, or FexEx, or something.)Please help! I hate feeling like an ignoramus.
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Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Hi Tim,

I agree with Alex if you haven't taken any Business courses to do so first. Then, take the JDE Application courses.

I have been doing CNC and Application (Inventory + Financial)consultant for a few years and it is great to know the applcation as a CNC guy. Many times I was called in for a Technical issue and it happen to be either a bug in the program (so I had to find an ESU) or a processing option that was not set-up properly or even that the user didn't know how to do a transaction properly.

Re: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Mike,

My 2 cents...

ERP systems attempt to link activity in operations (in your example, the Distribution Module) to the numbers that show up in the financials (the General Ledger).

The posting program you mention updates the General Ledger with the transactions that occur in other modules that have a financial impact. Without correct posting to the G/L, accounting and finance could never close the books (have relevant financials), because the numbers in the G/L would never reconcile to the detail of the business activity.

I've never seen a client ever go live successfully without a complete regression test of all business scenarios all the way through to the G/L. At many clients, finance is the largest 'customer' of the system (in terms of volume of reports, amounts of data storage, etc.)

If you want to learn more about ERP I would recommend APICS as a source (www.apics.org).

Hope this helps,

Tim Roberts, CPIM, PMP



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Alex

thanks...that's why I'm not an accountant...

and you just made me realize how lucky I am...

Jim

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RE: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

Buddy

Take a look too at :
http://www.cio.com/research/erp/edit/erpbasics.html

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Mike,
My 2 cents...
ERP systems attempt to link activity in operations (in your example, the
Distribution Module) to the numbers that show up in the financials (the
General Ledger).
The posting program you mention updates the General Ledger with the
transactions that occur in other modules that have a financial impact.
Without correct posting to the G/L, accounting and finance could never
close the books (have relevant financials), because the numbers in the
G/L would never reconcile to the detail of the business activity.
I've never seen a client ever go live successfully without a complete
regression test of all business scenarios all the way through to the
G/L. At many clients, finance is the largest 'customer' of the system
(in terms of volume of reports, amounts of data storage, etc.)
If you want to learn more about ERP I would recommend APICS as a source
(www.apics.org).
Hope this helps,
Tim Roberts, CPIM, PMP
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RE: What does OneWorld Do? (or What\'s an ERP?)

I tried to come up with a good acronym for ERP to explain what one does, but GIGANTIC PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT COSTS TOO MUCH AND GOES WAAAAYY OVER BUDGET AND STILL DOESN'T DO WHAT THE SALESMAN SAID IT WOULD DO doesn't fit well into an acronym...

Seriously though, in the past (pre-ERP era) each department in a business would have their own software. Sales might have ACT or GoldMine for contact management (Address Book in JDE), Accounting might have PeachTree or GreatPlains or a whole host of others while the manufacturing guys would have their own custom piece of code running on some antiquated machine that still used vacuum tubes, and the IT dep't was left trying to run all these disparate systems, each usually requiring its own server. Now this was a big break away from early computing when all the apps resided on a central mainframe (I think I saw one in the Smithsonian once). ERP is kind of a 'coming full-circle' for business apps. All the various divisions have their own apps, but its all in the same code and all resides on the same hardware. Theoretically this makes things simpler, but as is the case so many times, the individual parts (modules) may not be as good as independent software pieces that do the same thing. For example, there may be a better Transportation managment app available outside of JDE, but it doesn't handle warehousing/distribution, financials, payroll, etc... You get the idea.

For learning the different pieces, the classes or the books wil give you an idea of how things work in JDE, but some decent classes at a local college or univ. will really help more for gaining an understanding of the business practice behind the app's logic. Take some basic accounting and finance first, then branch out to the areas that interest you (like manufacturing mgmt, sales, or logistics)

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Sorry to be digging up old threads, but I found this thread really interesting. I wish I came across this actual thread when I was in my last JDE job. It's nice to know that others went through similar things!

It's funny, I learnt more about the JDE system from a business angle when I was not actually supporting it. I used to be so confused about each stakeholder's role. I only knew the system from a technical viewpoint as well, from business modelling angle. Who the stakeholders are, and what their roles and processes are. It's strange to learn about the debits and credits of each "book".

I recently tried to relearn everything I knew about debits and credits. It's doing my head in! lol... I cannot disassociate the credit and debit terms in my mind with credit cards etc. *Groans*

It's interesting to learn about how ERP came about. Maybe I'm showing my age, but I only knew learnt that it was a "one size fits all" kind of system for any blue chip. It's hard to ever comprehend that technology used to be so basic and discrete.