Replacing JDE payroll with ADP .. Thoughts?Poster: hscheperPosted =

[K Geechee]

Finally! After years of reading this site=2C a Payroll question! Whooo!

IMHO:

1. the best answer lies in the level of satisfaction your has with the JDE Payroll. If this is working well=2C it ain't broke so don't fix it. Said another way=2C better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.2. another consideration is the level of effort today vs. the expected level with ADP. Mgt always thinks that ADP does everything=2C but again=2C IMHO =2C the JDE staff does all the hard work and ADP calc Gross to Net and prin ts the checks/adives. Easy stuff. You still have to input all the payroll type maintenance into JDE (name/addr/pay rate/job/etc) to be extracted int o ADP. You must balance every payroll and tax report because errors are yo ur concern ultimately. The level of savings is small especially if your st aff is small to begin with.

Reducing staff by a quarter of a person is painful for the person to be cut into quarters.

Yeah=2C I know what my English teacher said about prepositions at the end o f a sentence=2C but I approve of what Winston Churchill said!

3. There are several 'what if's' to be considered=2C 'what if it snows and the checks cannot be delivered' (oh=2C your offices are next door to ADP i n Hawaii) or 'what if the new CEO (Mr. Maguire) wants a special run for pay roll this St Patricks Day=2C (March 17) and decides this on the Ides of Mar ch' (look for a new job=2C fast?). Unlikely=2C you say=3B well=2C I'm from Savannah=2C GA and anything is likely on March 17!

4. I would want to know a lot more as to the inability of the company to f ind=2C train=2C and retain payroll specialists before venturing into moving any payroll to any new service. Payroll is just not that hard to run.

IMHO=2C
K Geechee





Subject: Replacing JDE payroll with ADP .. Thoughts?Poster: hscheperPosted on: 10/29/08 12:25 PM (139487)requesting some thoughts on the following.... We currently run JDE payroll and WO=2CGL=2Cetc systems. Because we are havi ng a very difficult time recruiting a payroll specialist=2C Management has decided to outsource payroll to ADP. The current thought is that time entry would continue to be done within JDE=2C nightly Time card update program t o update relevant WO and costing accounts would continue as well. After pay roll cutoff=2C we would transmit timecards to ADP for further processing. H owever=2C we currently run hours reports for managers against the F0618 tab le. Is it possible to run the JDE payroll thru to final update without crea ting GL entries=2C but still updating the F0618 table?Is this a totally ins ane project?Your thoughts are appreciated!!Harry.PS: I'm an IT guy not payr oll so don't get payroll technical on me!!

 

[hscheper]

Re: Replacing JDE payroll with ADP .. Thoughts?

Hi K Geechee,

Thanks for the response.

I'll try to answer your questions.

Basically it appears to be a staffing issue that has instigated the project to switch to ADP. We advertised for a qualified payroll specialist and received no replies. I suspect it has to be related to the fact that the position is located in a small town in northern Canada. We only have 2 people in payroll and one left already. The other has given notice, so the panic has set in.

Beyond that I don't know the reasons for the change. We don't have issues with running payroll, but I suspect the change was mandated from on high without a real understanding of what they were asking. Just my opinion though.

Thanks again,
Harry

 

[altquark]

Re: Replacing JDE payroll with ADP .. Thoughts?

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We advertised for a qualified payroll specialist and received no replies. I suspect it has to be related to the fact that the position is located in a small town in northern Canada.

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Hi Harry

Certainly the fact that the position is located in a small northern canadian town isn't the primary issue. I'm certain that if offered enough money, you'd fill the payroll position. More than likely the fact is that your payroll people are leaving for better financial opportunities. Perhaps the position is not in the correct salary scale.

I'm going to echo the prior posters. I think its a mistake, moving from JDE to ADP because of external issues outside of the software. Certainly ADP is good at "upselling" their product - but I know plenty of payroll projects that went this route, only to end up not only being cumbersome, but the interface back to JDE was so flimsy and in effect the majority of the processing was still completed in JDE.

Often I question why JDE companies go with other MRP/DRP solutions, for example, given the immense work required to interface the products compared to just configuring internal processes. There are plenty of other examples, and it really shows that the implementation partner hasn't set the expectation correctly with your management.

Above 8.9 (I note that you're running 8.10), I would definitely say that HR/Payroll should be preferably run in EnterpriseOne above ADP.

 

[sskitch]

Re: Replacing JDE payroll with ADP .. Thoughts?

Here is another take on JDE/ADP payroll. We successfully married the two options. Because of the need to bill our payroll out and control other employee related aspects, made a partial move from ADP to JDE HR. Everything resides on our system, and each payroll we extract two XML files - one to print pay stubs and the other for electronic transferring funds (taxes and pay). These files are uploaded to ADP and they handle the processing, electronic transfers and mailing of the stubs.