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Object Management Configuration VS Environments

Zoltan_Gyimesi

Legendary Poster
Hi List/Forum,

1.) If I am right, Object Management Configuration is Path Code and Environment independent by default.
Am I right?
2.) Is it true for UDCs for OMW like User Role, Project Status?
3.) The default status is 21-Programing for default projects.
Activity Rules for this status points to DEV path code for Check-Out/Get as From Location and for Check-In as To Location, further points to Control Tables - Test for NON-Object Librarian Objects (e.g. Menus, UDCs) for Delete Only action as To Location.
Question: If I am working in an environment different from DV (Development) with different Path Code then DV, suppose PY (Prototype) Environment and Path Code then what will be the:
* From Location when I issue a Check-out/Get for an OL Object
* To Location when I issue a Check-In or Delete for an OL Object
* To Location when I issue a Delete for a NON-OL Object (e.g. UDC, Menu)
in the reality?

Our problem is that we made a brand new Environment with its own Path Code, Control and Business data sources for our consultants. The purpose of it to create base settings for a Hungarian Prototype environment which will be easilly Rollable-Out to our customer site as a base settings preserving to enter everything everywhere from scratch (e.g. UDs, MENUs, General Ledger setups, AAIs, Versions, etc, etc.).

This issue is urgent enough for me and I haven't enough time to play with OMC/OMW to answer/guess everything.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Zoltán


B7332 SP11, ESU 4116422, Intel NT4, SQL 7 SP1
(working with B7321, B7331, XE too)
 

Zoltan_Gyimesi

Legendary Poster
Excuse me.
Of course, the release is XE this time.
Zoltán

B7332 SP11, ESU 4116422, Intel NT4, SQL 7 SP1
(working with B7321, B7331, XE too)
 

ShaneM

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Zoltan:

You can create your own activity rules to determine promotion to and from
environments. If you go into OMC and choose activity rules, you can pull up
a list of all of the current rules. In the 21 folder, you will see all of
the status you can promote your objects to. We have created other menus for
our environments, i.e 40 is DV7333, 50 is PY7333, 60 is PD7333, and created
activity rules for objects in these statuses. You can create these in the
UDC table. As far as checking in/out items from different environments, try
the following.

1. Go into activity rules, and look at the 21 folder
2. Highlight the 21 item within the folder and Select - this will bring up
activity rules for Object Mgmt within the 21 status
3. You should be able to print this grid, and use it as a template for
checking in/out items in a project status.
4. If you look in the 21 folder at the 26 item, you will see activity rules
for what happens to objects when promoting a project. This can be used as a
template for your own rules.

In each of the tables, all of the object types don't have to be listed, but
you will get OMW errors if you attempt to move an object type that does not
have an associated rule. Basically all you will have to change in the table
is the Environment From/To fields. I will see if I can get the table
associated with these rules.

Shane McConnell


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<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">You can create your own activity rules =
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choose activity rules, you can pull up a list of all of the current =
rules. In the 21 folder, you will see all of the status you can promote =
your objects to. We have created other menus for our environments, i.e =
40 is DV7333, 50 is PY7333, 60 is PD7333, and created activity rules =
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<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. Go into activity rules, and look at =
the 21 folder</FONT>

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folder and Select - this will bring up activity rules for Object Mgmt =
within the 21 status </FONT></P>



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grid, and use it as a template for checking in/out items in a project =
status. </FONT>

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the 26 item, you will see activity rules for what happens to objects =
when promoting a project. This can be used as a template for your own =
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object types don't have to be listed, but you will get OMW errors if =
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Zoltan_Gyimesi

Legendary Poster
Re: RE: Object Management Configuration VS Environments

At first, thank you Shane for the detailed explanation but I already very well know how to setup Project Statuses, Allowed Actions, Activity Rules in a status and Activity Rules for project promotion.
I suppose, I haven't decribed enough clear my problems.

I am affraid that I won't avoid to create new development cycle(s) with new statuses and appropriately set Activity Rules etc. to maintain our new Prototype Environment and Path Code independently the existing standard settings and statuses that we wanted to keep too.

Unfortunately I can not access currently enough fat clients with different Path Codes making experiences. What I have done till now:
1.) UDCs will be create in the Control Tables data sources of the current environment.
2.) After an Object Check-Out in PY7333 environment the Object Log (in OMW) shows DV7333 Path Code as from location.
In my mentioned situation (not enough fat client with different Path Codes) I couldn't try Check-In and making a bit change on an object in DEV, Check-Out on PY and verify that the DEV path code is really the from location.

OK! I will create our new development cycle but I have some fears.

Our consultants like to manage Batch and Interactive Versions on the old way, outside of OMW. In this case itt will be in the default project which has 21-Programing status, which points to DEV path code for these type of objects as From and To location.

1.) I know, I can not set different status for default projects (e.g. based on environment, pathcode or user ID)
Am I right?
2.) Can I secure somehow Batch and Interactive Versions applications when they are called outside from OMW (using a native OW security method)?
3.) What about Users field in the Activity Rules? Can I enter different Rules (e.g. different From/To locations)for different users for the same Activity? If yes, then can I combine *PUBLIC, User Group and User ID entries for the same Activity (e.g. the rule is A for *PUBLIC except for user EXCEPT for whom the rule is B, etc.)
4.) Maybe a very drastic and uncomfortable solution could be to assign a new status for default project and remove/disable all activity for this status forcing this way to use our custom statuses.
Could it prevent the user to enter/checkin Versions outside of OMW????

Any further idea, solution, hint?

Thanks in advance,
Zoltán






B7332 SP11, ESU 4116422, Intel NT4, SQL 7 SP1
(working with B7321, B7331, XE too)<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Zoltan_Gyimesi on 2/28/01 12:28 PM.</FONT></P>
 
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