Oracle may support rival databases in Fusion

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BOK,

Interesting article. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Question for you listers out there - does anyone really think that Oracle is going to support DB2 and MS SQL for Fusion? I personally doubt it. I'm surprised that they are planning on supporting Websphere.

Gregg Larkin
JDE System Administrator (CNC) / North America
Praxair, Inc.
 
It's the concern that I have had for a while (and I echoed again in this week's Computerworld): at some point the goliath known as Oracle has to be feeling some indigestion from its "feeding frenzy" (is this some sort of corporate competitive eating event that we are seeing?)...where is the infrastructure to support all of these platforms, all of this disparate technology? Oh, and the biggest point: does all of this then come back to bite in the form of (even) higher maintenance fees? Having the coolest car (Maserati?) on the block is nice, but it you are bound to $100,000 in maintenance fees (whether you need fixes or not) while the gent down the street has a hoopdy, but only has $500 in annual maintenance, well, suddenly that Maserati doesn't look so hot...
 
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is this some sort of corporate competitive eating event that we are seeing?

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Excellent analogy. What's next for JDOrasoft? Cognos?
 
I think I see what is afoot. Let's review:

They have purchased O(blix), P(eopleSoft - which gives them a J(DE) bonus), R(etek), S(iebel), T(imes Ten)...

They're not going for vertical and horizontal (and 3D) integration, Larry is playing a galactic game of Scrabble (he who dies with the most letters, wins)! Wait 'till he goes after... I...B...M!
 
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Larry is playing a galactic game of Scrabble (he who dies with the most letters, wins)! Wait 'till he goes after... I...B...M!

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And then the US Justice department forces him to break up like they did to Ma Bell.....
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It's hard to imagine Oracle supporting rival databases...especially anything from IBM. But...how can they turn away from the iSeries clients? Putting aside the platform debate...the playing field is pretty set. There are a ton of clients that continue to use the iSeries for both E1 and World. We are implementing many new World clients because of the relative ease of getting a new plant up and running in weeks vs months or years. As you'd expect...we also have many clients moving from World to E1...but they're staying on the iSeries.

- Scott
 
Oracle will support rival databases if their customers tell them to. If Oracle buyers or current customers tell them that they will switch to SAP or MS if Oracle tries to force them to an Oracle database then Oracle will support other databases.

Aren't you glad we live in interesting times?



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BOK,

Interesting article. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Question for you listers out there - does anyone really think that Oracle is going to support DB2 and MS SQL for Fusion? I personally doubt it. I'm surprised that they are planning on supporting Websphere.

Gregg Larkin
JDE System Administrator (CNC) / North America
Praxair, Inc.

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Sounds like the Marketingspeak of "Fusion" is getting all set to start calling EOne part of "Fusion".
 
BOK

Hmmm, here's some intersting insight. I shared your article with one of our IT directors. He has been tasked with helping us chart a future course for ERP. His response was "Interesting article. ... we had Oracle in here for a meeting entitled ' Future Directions of Applications'. In that meeting, Oracle made it very clear that SQL was not part of the picture with Project Fusion. We ask several pointed questions and it was clear - Oracle DBMS only!" Interesting times indeed.....
 
This is indeed a remarkable once-in-a lifetime window that has been opened.

The chess match between Oracle and SAP and the resulting positioning of the smaller companies and support service firms will present us with an unique opportunity to have our voices heard in terms of what works and what does not in the software packages and related tools and support. SAP and Oracle will both be trying to appeal to the hearts and minds of PeopleSoft/JDE (and even original formula Oracle) users. Such attempts to sway ERP users gives us an unprecendented opportunity to look under the covers of previously closed or Byzantine operating systems and tell the company what works and what does not. This can lead to better, more agile software supported by a network which makes the customer's voice count. Sound utopian? Not really. But it does require some work by the user community itself. Companies that use the software packages should take this overture at "Glasnost" and become active with their local, regional and international user groups. The more users who come together, the larger the voice to the software company, and the greater the opportunity for positive change. There is another, less recognized benefit: as large groups of users get together (like with these forums), they find that many other companies have the same issues that they do. This creates an atmosphere where best practices are born and in turn, can escalate the software improvement process to an even higher level.

When all is said and done, we may look back on this as the "golden age" of ERP software. A period of enlightenment, where the users (as much as the companies themselves) drive the development of the next generation of ERP software. However, to reap these benefits, we users must perform some of the labor. And we must do so together.
 
Interesting point, and one of the key points Lenley made during the product roadmap at OpenWorld is that EnterpriseOne is currently the ONLY Oracle ERP application to be fully Fusion compliant at the middleware layer. Think about that one while you sip on your margarita or iced tea.
 
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