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    Oracle says you can stand up an EnterpriseOne environment in about 3 days using their Oracle VM Templates. Anyone have success doing so? We want to stand up a sandbox environment.

    Thanks!

    PS: Anyone in production on this type of setup?

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    Re: Oracle VM Templates for EnterpriseOne - anyone have success with them

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    Oracle says you can stand up an EnterpriseOne environment in about 3 days using their Oracle VM Templates. Anyone have success doing so? PS: Anyone in production on this type of setup?

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    Eric

    Stand up an environment in 3 days? What are they smoking? We are in the process of standing one up that will go live in January. It is taking MUCH MUCH longer.

    1) It took our linux guru 10 days to setup OVM. There were quite a few back and forths with Oracle to get drivers right

    2) It took our Linux admin several days to just get the templates to install correctly.

    3) It is taking us the better part of a month to configure the six batch and weblogic servers.

    4) The batch servers were fairly easy to configure after the first one.

    5) The weblogic server templates install weblogic standard, not weblogic enterprise. If you want full clustering, you need to upgrade to weblogic enterprise edition (not a small chunk of change). The JDE install documents assumes that you are using weblogic enterprise. That is NOT part of the red stack. Don't use the clustering piece of weblogic (it's there in standard) unless you ALSO upgrade your license to enterprise edition. If you use the clustering, expect a bill from Oracle after your next Oracle audit.

    6) We are planning on working with one of our architects to setup our F5s to cluster the farm of weblogic servers this morning, and attempt to cluster the batch servers.

    7) Setting up active/active batch server clustering is NOT documented. It is a field innovation, not an Oracle procedure. A few of the top CNCs on this list know how to do this (Shoutout to Colin and Jon). We are muddling our way through it.

    8) OVM has some stability issues and support issues. We lost the better part of a week waiting for Oracle to get back to our Linux guy. Our system crashed twice and took some tweaking to get back up. We had to jump up and down to get Oracle's attention on this.

    9) We are standing up Oracle 11gR2 on an Exalogic server. That is a totally seperate effort that has been on-going since early July with a team of DBAs and Oracle consultants. Still not ready to go yet.

    10) And one other minor detail, we are Windows, SQL, XE guys. So there is a minor little learing curve to get up to Oracle, linux, 9.0, server manager, and Weblogic.

    So yea, three days, no problem.....
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    Yes it is possible................but only after you have done it a few times or you are well versed in Linux and Oracle VM.

    I've spoken to many top CNC's on this and there seems to be consensus.........only after a few go's at it.

    Now if you're Clayton Seeley and you've done this about 1000 times then you can get this up and running in 16 hours.

    Even after doing VMWare about a zillion times Oracle VM was quite different. It works but it's not quitewhat VMWare offers (although the price is more attractive.

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    Yes it is possible................but only after you have done it a few times or you are well versed in Linux and Oracle VM.

    I've spoken to many top CNC's on this and there seems to be consensus.........only after a few go's at it.

    Now if you're Clayton Seeley and you've done this about 1000 times then you can get this up and running in 16 hours.

    Even after doing VMWare about a zillion times Oracle VM was quite different. It works but it's not quitewhat VMWare offers (although the price is more attractive.

    Colin

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    Colin

    I know Clayton Seely, you are no Clayton Seely.

    But you are close.

    I agree with your statement. If we had:

    1) oracle database setup
    2) OVM setup
    3) Linux experience
    4) Weblogic experience outside of the Oracle classroom
    5) 9.0 experience (we have some 8.12 experience but not 9.0)
    6) If we were setting this up in a simple scenario, not multiple servers.
    7) Had a CNC consultant that likes Tim Hortons to help us.

    Then yea, we could have set up a lab environment in three days.

    BTW - does Clayton still work for Oracle? He's one heck of a CNC Guru....
    Senior Technical Consultant, Syntax

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    I know Clayton Seely, you are no Clayton Seely.

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    If you knew Clayton, you would know that he spells his last name 'Seeley'.


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    I know Clayton Seely, you are no Clayton Seely.

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    If you knew Clayton, you would know that he spells his last name 'Seeley'.



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    Touché
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    I know Clayton Seely, you are no Clayton Seely.

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    If you knew Clayton, you would know that he spells his last name 'Seeley'.



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    Touché

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    Wait, you know how to get that little accent thingie over an 'e' but you cannot spell Clayton's name right?

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    6) We are planning on working with one of our architects to setup our F5s to cluster the farm of weblogic servers this morning, and attempt to cluster the batch servers.

    ....

    8) OVM has some stability issues and support issues. We lost the better part of a week waiting for Oracle to get back to our Linux guy. Our system crashed twice and took some tweaking to get back up. We had to jump up and down to get Oracle's attention on this.


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    So we got off the phone with our F5 guy, and then our dang OVM environment crashed again. Second time today. Fourth or fifth time in ten days. So add in some time in your three day "Stand Up JDE" window for crashing and debugging OVM......

    It's a good thing we weren't able to get a Tim Horton's drinking CNC consultant in this week afterall. We'd be having a very expensive coffee break right now....
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    You guys are killing me.

    Clayton is a lifer........he works in Denver under the Partner Support (Enablement 2.0 stuff).

    I'm looking forward to the OVM templates with 8.98.4.0. I'm hoping the Server Manager integration for WebLogic is better than it currently is or atleast on par with WAS.

    Also looking for WLS to be supported as a WSRP producer.

    OVM is actually pretty popular in Europe becasue there uptake on VMWare wasn't as fast as in North America. Over here VMWare is pretty much the standard and has so many integrated 3rd party products.

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    Re: Oracle VM Templates for EnterpriseOne - anyone have success with them

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    OVM is actually pretty popular in Europe becasue there uptake on VMWare wasn't as fast as in North America. Over here VMWare is pretty much the standard and has so many integrated 3rd party products.


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    Well my impression of OVM is not very good at the moment. We are actually considering porting some of the linux servers over to VM-ware until Oracle can get OVM stable. Our strategy is to build a 100% Oracle certified environment, BUT, we also need one the #$%^#$% works. My senior director has turned up the heat big time on Oracle. Grrrrrr.
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